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The People's Choice

rich, for you to do anything other than support owens wouldn't make you much of a leader.

You keep referring to the comparison between mods here and real cops. Dennis is a real cop, I'm not sure about Ken. The rest have either paid for their mod status or are your friends. The comparison between mods and actual law enforcement officers, Dennis and Ken not included in this, hardly holds water when you look at it realistically. There ARE minimum standards, training and firm guidelines for law enforcement. I don't believe any of those are present for mods. If you look you will also see that the ACTUAL cops have pretty much left me alone. Interesting, isn't it?

THIS isn't real life, it's an internet forum. There are a great many inconsistencies here that would not be tolerated by real law enforcement. We both, we all, know the truth there.

So, instead of constantly trying to make this all about me, why don't you look at the other side of the coin. SOME of your mods do not do the wonderful job that your cops do. You must know this. I am not alone in my feelings. Others have also stated on this site that they feel much the same as I do.

It doesn't really matter, as I said this is just a forum on the internet not real life, it just bugs me to see things touted as being one way when I and others see them as another. I have spoken of it from long ago so it should be no surprise that I continue to speak on it when I see it.

I am certainly not surprised by owens' actions, nor dands nor Dennis' or Harald's or John's, be they excellent examples or not.

I suppose I could have less to say about things going one way this time and another way that time but, as I said, it sort of bugs me to see it prettied up and called par for the course and only to be expected when it is niether par nor consistent enough to actually be expected. Don't get me wrong, I've always said that I am no example to hold up to anyone, I'm no saint and I know it but that does not negate the points I make about things not being as fairly/consistently enforced as is made out.

I know you say you guys can't read every post by every member, but it seems some of you can read every post by SOME members. When transgressions are made by different members in the same post, some are overlooked. To me, just me, that seems wrong. You don't have to agree with me, but that doesn't change my opinion.

It seems that you keep trying to make it out like I'm asking for some special dispensation. I'm not. While I do occasionally just slip up, I generally know exactly what I write. I also know exactly what I read. Sometimes I read something that could have been written by me but wasn't that gets no notice at all officially.

You know and I know that all of this is just nonsense. I feed it. Then you feed it. Sometimes I wonder why I bother to be bothered when it obviously bothers you not at all, and yet, still I am bothered by the lack I see.

If no one tests the checks and balances, how do you know they're valid and in good working order? If those checks and balances fail the tests, should they be improved or should the tests be stopped or reduced to the point that the checks and balances then appear to function?

It's late and I've said quite a bit. I reckon its enough for now.
 
Wes,
I know that I might as well be arguing with the wall here, but please show me ONE example where you have been unfairly moderated be me. ONE. Don't beat around the bush about "selective moderation," or how you get picked on more than most. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that whoever breaks the rules the most is going to have the most warning points (and anyone who has been around here for any length of time knows how often you break the rules). Bottom line: just give ONE example of where I gave you warning points unfairly. In other words, either prove your case, or shut up with all of your whining already.
 
I think I will take this moment to do the unthinkable...drag this mess back to the initial topic. I will not wander through the list of people that are already in this group and single out some...I will, instead, consider people that are not.
The 3Gs
Sammy G
Mike G
Dan G
Your posting styles are consistent and professional. I certainly would have
cast votes in your favor

Bob W
I sometimes dislike your style, but despite our past differences...

I know there is one other person...but I'll be darned if I can recall the name
 
"Antagonism towards another member". Hmmmm... Wes called Lucille "Loosewheel", which was antagonistic and he got warning points for it. Lucille called Wes "Wesley" which is also antagonistic, yet she received no warning points for it.

If I called Rich "Little Ritchie", or Dr. Owens "Jay-Jay", or Jim O "Jimbo" (you get the point), would it be considered antagonistic? Would I get any warning points for it?

Just curious.
 
Golden Gate Geckos said:
If I called Rich "Little Ritchie", or Dr. Owens "Jay-Jay", or Jim O "Jimbo" (you get the point), would it be considered antagonistic? Would I get any warning points for it?
You could at least have used "Jimi" (a la Jimi Hendrix). :p

Seriously, if, and I repeat if, the rules are appled consistently by dand, then one might expect he would have to ding you for one or more of those, should he happen to see it.

Maybe dand would care to comment on how he would see those so we have an idea of what to expect. I wouldn't want to get dinged for calling you "Marcy" after all.


I would point out that in dand's warnings to Wes, he says
Again, addressing any one by anything other than the person's given name or screen name is abusive.
Well, Jim is not my "given name", nor is it likely Jim F's. I bet "Rich" is not Webslave's "given name" either. I'm not that obtuse that I don't get the meaning, but the wording could be and should be better so we really know what the (moving) target is.
 
Actually I find it interesting that Lucy now has paid to give dings....for that can be the only reason she would chip in the extra. She has had the ability to pay for benefactor for a couple years never chose to. But now she can moderate for real just for the money.
 
Dragondad said:
Actually I find it interesting that Lucy now has paid to give dings....for that can be the only reason she would chip in the extra. She has had the ability to pay for benefactor for a couple years never chose to. But now she can moderate for real just for the money.
Well how 'bout that! I just hope that she remembers these words posted just a few days ago:
lucille said:
I think the best moderators are not simply 'ticket writers' although that needs to be done sometimes; rather they are problem solvers.
 
Actually I find it interesting that Lucy now has paid to give dings....for that can be the only reason she would chip in the extra. She has had the ability to pay for benefactor for a couple years never chose to. But now she can moderate for real just for the money.
Actually, I think that situation is the best one for Fauna. Rich has designed a system in which someone can contribute to a level that allows them this mod status. The warning limits have been raised, the "zing" power of that particular mod level has been lowered from what the other site mods can give (I think?), and it raises money for the site. If there are people who want to support the site in this fashion, I think it's good. Even if they do it solely to "go gunning" for someone, it will take a coon's age to get a poster booted if that poster uses any sense at all. In the meantime, the contributor can have fun meting out their interpretation of justice, and all is well.

Please, folks, keep perspective about this.
 
Actually I find it interesting that Lucy now has paid to give dings....for that can be the only reason she would chip in the extra.

Perhaps the "unthought of" income potential of selling ding power is finally starting to manifest itself ! Don't know if he learned how to pull the trigger yet, but CS Reptiles bought the power a couple of days ago. I believe Scott Sanchez may be saving up his lunch money too!

Jimmy Crack Corn Flaherty
 
You could at least have used "Jimi" (a la Jimi Hendrix).
"Are You Experienced?"
Jimmy Crack Corn Flaherty
LOL, that reminds me of that wireless phone company's commercial on TV where the future son-in-law is calling his father-in-law all those "Jim" names and the call gets dropped!
:rofl:
 
Golden Gate Geckos said:
You could at least have used "Jimi" (a la Jimi Hendrix).
"Are You Experienced?"
Yes, I am...


Golden Gate Geckos said:
Jimmy Crack Corn Flaherty
LOL, that reminds me of that wireless phone company's commercial on TV where the future son-in-law is calling his father-in-law all those "Jim" names and the call gets dropped!
:rofl:
They dropped that line from the commercial. Perhaps being lyrics from a "slave song" some people found it to not be PC. :ack2:
 
Nick names full first names Wes Wesley Dand Dandy Dave whatever .
He has a point yup I said it :)
I have a name only my family calls me 'Little John' [heh gotta wonder how many here are gonna use that] I am 5'8" and 200+ so everybody else calls me Apple or John. I DO see Wes's point there.
 
John Apple said:
Nick names full first names Wes Wesley Dand Dandy Dave whatever .
He has a point yup I said it :)
I have a name only my family calls me 'Little John' [heh gotta wonder how many here are gonna use that] I am 5'8" and 200+ so everybody else calls me Apple or John. I DO see Wes's point there.
"Good night John-Boy."
 
The art form here would be to be able to antagonize without being "overly abusive" guilty, as mentioned by several here, and some apparently lack the skill. It is clear that there is a line somewhere between "Lucille" and "Loose Wheel" that gets one dinged. Is it "Lucy", or "Lucy, I'm home", I guess time will tell as those with needs to call names go through their "checks and balances" :rolleyes: .

Slim Jim
 
owens, we've been down that road before and frankly, it's not worth the time or the effort to argue the point with you.

I feel one way, you feel another. As staff, you have the backing of the man in charge.

YOUR opinion of whether or not you've been fair, while of some matter, is not one I look to when I want an UNBIASED view.

We don't like eachother.

Let's just leave it with that. You do your thing and I'll do mine.
 
Don't you guys think all of this name calling and dinging for name calling is a little bit childish? I thought this was essentially an "adult" forum.

Oh wait, I've got to go, the third period bell is ringing.....
 
Mike Greathouse said:
Don't you guys think all of this name calling and dinging for name calling is a little bit childish? I thought this was essentially an "adult" forum.

Oh wait, I've got to go, the third period bell is ringing.....


Ahhhhh an enlightened one!!!
 
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